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Merry Christmas to you too. :) --HonoredMule 19:03, 24 December 2011 (AST)

Thanks. I just found out that the link to my user page requires 49 characters, and the maximal link length for Illy forum profile homepage links is 48 ;-)Dunnoob 11:14, 27 December 2011 (AST)
Actually, you can do it in 44, including the http:// bit: --HonoredMule 20:40, 27 December 2011 (AST)
Updated, the workaround was too obscure for my tastes. –Dunnoob 19:07, 28 December 2011 (AST)

Quests for Dwarves

  • I've reverted the edits you added for categorizing quests by race. There are other plans in progress to delineate race-specific quests, and no useful purpose to the messy addition of race-specific categories. Most quests will fall into all four anyway, making the specification of such very unnecessary bloat. The two common uses for quest lookup on the wiki are: reviewing details on a quest by name (in which case the system being developed more conveniently handles race-specific versions of a quest), and listing quests by purpose/use (in which case players just want to match what they have against what provides what they want--a few out-of-race entries in the mix makes no difference to them). The underlying principle here is to maximize convenience of the most common/practical uses of wiki information while minimizing both the depth and breadth of navigation options. Too much information or too many options only get in the way. See Moving Home for the proper way this is going to be handled (and the templates being used are also going to be altered once finished to more intelligently handle quests that have versions for fewer than 4 races). Also see King's Road for an example of the new templates that are being used for the full contents of quest pages as well (including auto-creation of the sidebar). --HonoredMule 22:46, 9 January 2012 (AST)
    Obviously I'm interested in the info, because I can't judge what Humans, Elves, or Orcs get. Various Quests for Dwarves listed in the forum are missing here, and some quests listed here might be obsolete (= I never got them so far). –Dunnoob 23:07, 9 January 2012 (AST)

Related template appearance

FYI, the related template's failure to create a background and border when used as anything other than the first part of a page is by design. I found the box gave it appropriate prominence when used as the first item (in an article-wide context) but was too disruptive to the flow of the page when used elsewhere like in a subsection. The means of applying this distinction means that as a side-effect it also has no box when following templates like stub and incomplete, but I find this an acceptable trade-off as I don't want articles themselves to have to maintain markup/presentational details and it would otherwise just never have the box.--HonoredMule 02:31, 10 October 2012 (ADT)

It's messy and unreadable if normal text flows around normal text floating left. Maybe enable the border for the "not first child div" case. Or the background. Or both, as it's the case in articles where it's the first thing. Or disable the floating effect where that's not the case. Or use italics to get some kind of visual contrast from the normal text, the generous margins alone don't do the trick for me. OTOH it only affects stubs and similar articles, you could put it in a soon ToDo list for 2014 ;-)Dunnoob 05:39, 10 October 2012 (ADT)
I had previously toyed with just border or just background, and it still stood out too much. Faint border on the other hand doesn't make much difference from none, to me, but perhaps you'll find it's just barely enough. In playing with it now I see why I didn't like it before--it clashes with the underline on a heading (and quite badly if it's darker than that more important visual indicator)--but I guess it's bearable if it's equally faint. I'll leave it that way and see if I can live with it. You can probably tell--I'm pretty picky when it comes to UI design. :) --HonoredMule 05:18, 11 October 2012 (ADT)